First attempt to keep some notes on record trail in one place for Sayevitch and Goldwater families. This from http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/jewish/country/ukraine3.htm#

Goldwater origins

Currently all we know is that the patriarch of the family, Morris Goldwater (b c 1865-9) came from Poland c 1880, the family seemingly (judging by places of birth of children) returning there between 1881 and 1882, and then moving permanently to England (in the case of Morris, he moved to Dublin c 1939 or possibly earlier).

Poland
	History Between 1772 and 1795, Poland was partitioned between Russia, Austria and Prussia, and ceased to be an independent nation for over 100 years, until it was re-established after the First World War in 1918. Between the wars, newly independent Poland included parts of former Russian gubernias of Vilna, Grodno and Volhynia, the former Austrian province of Galicia and Prussian Poznan and West Prussia. After the Second World War nearly a half of inter-war Poland (eastern provinces: Wilno, Nowogródek, Polesie, Wolyn, Tarnopol, Stanislawó and parts of Lwó amnd Bialystok) became part of the Soviet Union - these areas are now part of Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. Poland gained former German areas: most of Pommern (Pommerania), Brandenburg, Schlesien (Silesia), West Prussia and half of East Prussia. Record Keeping Depends upon the occupying power: Russian, Austria or Prussia. Russian Poland (Kingdom of Poland): 1808: Civil registration established by Napoleon. Jews and others are included in Catholic registers. 1826: Separate registers are kept for each religious community: Roman Catholic, Jewish, Russian Orthodox, Protestant, etc. 1868: Record keeping switches from the Polish to Russian language. For more information on vital records, see the JewishGen InfoFile 'Vital Records in Poland'. Austrian Poland (Galicia): Civil registration began in 1787, but wasnot enforced until the mid-19th century. Prussian Poland: Civil registration began in 1874. Archives Naczelna Dyrekcja Archiwów Panstwowych (Polish State Archives) ul. Dluga 6 Skr. Pocztowa Nr 1005 00-950 Warszawa Poland (Requires $30 deposit, hourly fee $15, copies $10 each) Records over 100 years old are located in several dozen regional archives, located throughout the country. But you need to write to the main archive in Warsaw, listed above. Vital records less than 100 years old are still stored at the local Civil Registrar's office in each town. Write to: Urzad Stanu Cywilnego [YourTown] Poland They may or may not be responsive.

Books
	Rosemary A. Chorzempa, Korzenie Polskie: Polish Roots , Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1993. (Focuses on the Roman Catholic majority.) Judith A. Frazin, A Translation Guide to 19th-Century Polish-Language Civil-Registration Documents , Chicago: JGS of Illinois, 1989. (Aid to translate Napoleonic format vital records microfilmed by the LDS for 1808-68.) Jonathan Shea, Russian-Language Documents from Russian Poland: A Translation Manual for Genealogists , Orem, UT: Genealogy Unlimited, 1989. (Translation aid for documents such as vital records from Russian Poland for 1868-1918.) M. Weiner, Jewish Roots in Poland. Pages from the Past and Archival Inventories New York and Seacaucus: YIVO and Miriam Weiner Routes to Roots Foundation: 1999. (Contains comprehensive inventories of Jewish records in Polish archives and civil registration offices.) Suzan F. Wynne, Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia: A Resource Guide ,. Teaneck, NJ: Avotaynu, 1999. (A compilation of useful material for those researching Galician roots.) Articles 'Polish-Jewish Genealogical Research - A Primer', by Jeffrey K. Cymbler, in Avotaynu IX:2 (Summer 1993), pp. 4-12. (An excellent overview of available sources.) 'Jewish Genealogical Research in Polish Archives', by Prof. Jerzy Skowronek (former State Archivist of Poland), in Avotaynu X:2 (Summer 1994), pp. 5-8 'Location of Western Galician Vital Statistics Records' by Izabela Pazdziorek, in Avotaynu VII:2 (Summer 1991), pp. 14-15 'Demographic Records of Galicia, 1772-1919', by Suzan Wynne. in Avotaynu VIII:2 (Summer 1992), pp. 7-11. (Includes inventory of records from eastern Galicia now in Warsaw.) Creators: Dr Saul Issroff LDS Microfilms Extensive collection of over 2,000 microfilms for Russian Poland in 1808 through to the 1880s. There is also a collection for Prussian Poland (Poznan). There are virtually no Jewish records filmed for Galicia. There has been no filming of Jewish records since 1992. Note: The FHL Catalog is based on Poland's 1945-75 internal provincial jurisdictions. Special Interest Group (SIGs) Galicia (southern regions formerly in Austro-Hungarian Empire) c/o Shelley Kellerman Pollero: rkpollero@comcast.net Publication: The Galitzianer E-mail discussion group Website: www.jewishgen.org/Galicia Lomza and Suwalk gubernias (northeastern Poland): see the Lithuania gallery Grodno gubernia (Bialystok region): see the Belarus gallery Kielce and Radom gubernias (south-centeral Poland today): c/o Mark Froimowitz: mfroimowitz@attbi.com Quarterly Kielce-Radom SIG Journal, starting 1997 Website: www.jewishgen.org/krsig JRI-PL, The Jewish Records Indexing - Poland Project: Creates indexes to Polish-Jewish vital records. Has indexed over 1.5 million records to date on-line. Website:www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

History

The Ukraine is formed from Russian Empire gubernias of Podolia, Volhynia, Kiev, Poltava, Chernigov, Kharkov, Kherson, Taurida, Ekaterinoslav and the eastern half of the Austrian Empire province of Galicia. Parts were also in Poland between the wars (Polish inter-war provinces of Wolyn, Tarnopol, Lwów and Stanislawów.

Record Keeping

Please refer to the Russian Empire gallery for record-keeping details.

Archives

Tsentral'nyi derzhavnyi istorychnyi arkhiv Ukray
(Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine)
u. Solomenskaya 24
252601 Kiev
Ukraine
Tel: (044) 277-3002.

Ukraine SIG at www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine

Finding aids are primitive or non-existent. You can use one of the private record-searching services, or write to the archives directly. The archive charges $10 per hour; typical requests are likely to cost $100 each.

Books Aleksander Kronick and Sallyann Amdur Sack, Some Archival Sources for Ukrainian-Jewish Genealogy Teaneck, NJ: Avotaynu, Inc., 1999. (Inventories of records of 300 towns in 12 archives, mainly Kiev, Lviv, Warsaw and Zhitomir.) M. Weiner, Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldavia. Pages from the Past and Archival Inventories New York and Seacaucus: YIVO and Miriam Weiner Routes to Roots Foundation: 1999. (Contains comprehensive inventories of Jewish records in Ukrainian and Moldovan archives and civil registration offices.) Articles 'Sources for Jewish Genealogy in the Ukrainian Archives', by Dr Volodymyr Lozytsky, in Avotaynu X:2 (Summer 1994), pp. 9-14. (Overview of types of records available.) 'The Practicalities of Genealogical Research in the Ukraine', by Heorgij V. Papakin, in Avotaynu X:4 (Winter 1994), pp. 3-4 'Ukrainian Research and Ancestral Travels', by Susannah R. Juni, in Avotaynu XIII:4 (Winter 1997), pp. 33-37 'Records of Jews in the Vinnitsa Oblast Archives', by Vadim Altskan, in Avotaynu VII:3 (Autumn 1992), pp. 10-11. {Podolia gubernia. Includes inventory.) 'Guide to the Jewish Records in the Rovno Oblast State Archives', by Dmitriy A. Panov, in Avotaynu X:4 (Winter 1994), pp. 5-9. (Volhynia gubernia. Inventory.) 'Information for Jewish Genealogists in the State Archive of Zhitomir Oblast', by Efim Melamed, in Avotaynu XII:1 (Spring 1996), pp. 14-18. (Volhynia gubernia.) 'Report on Ukrainian and Latvian Archives', by Anton Vadim, in Avotaynu IX:3 (Autumn 1993), pp. 8-9. (Kharkov, Poltava, Chernigov oblast archives.) 'Canadian Archivists Visit Ukrainian Archives' and 'Report on a Recent Trip to Ukrainian Archives', by George Bolotenko and Lawrence Tapper, in Avotaynu IX:4 (Winter 1993), pp. 9-10; and X:1 (Spring 1994), pp. 3-9 (L'viv, Chernivtsi, Kamianets-Podilsk archives.) 'Jewish Genealogical Research in Ukraine', by Vlad Soshnikov, in Avotaynu , XVI:3 (Autumn 2000), pp. 23-26. LDS Microfilms Microfilming began in 1994. There are projects in progress in Kiyev and L'viv. Jewish vital records from Crimea were filmed in Simferopol in 1995-96: Bakchisaray Feodosiya Karasubazar Kerch Melitopol Perekop Simferopol Yalta Yevpatoriya Filmed in Cherkasy in 1996-97: Mokraya-Kaligorka Olshana Shpola Zvenigorodka (Zvenigorodka district) Filmed in Ternopil in 1997: Kremenets (Volhynia) Filmed in Chernigov in 1997-98: Berezna Chernigov Gorodnya Kozelets Nizhyn Special Interest Groups (SIGs) Ukraine SIG: (former Russian Empire gubernias) Website: www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine E-mail discussion group. Galicia (former Austrian province, now western Ukraine): Please refer to the Polish gallery for more details.